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* There's a (female) Ghost now in The Wildcat on the upper floor, instead of a spirit. (added note to article, don't think label is necessary, 22oct2010) ~~ [[User:Songlian|Songlian]] 20:55, October 22, 2010 (UTC) |
* There's a (female) Ghost now in The Wildcat on the upper floor, instead of a spirit. (added note to article, don't think label is necessary, 22oct2010) ~~ [[User:Songlian|Songlian]] 20:55, October 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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+ | * [[Captain Taris Ashald]] (Ravenstower Castle) |
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===Items=== |
===Items=== |
Revision as of 19:14, 23 October 2010
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Notes/Comments
Glancing at the area list in the Chooser, I see quite a few map name changes (like stuff related to Ravenstower). I'm not sure how we want to handle this, leave 'em alone or rename with redirects, etc. --Superlgn 22:00, October 16, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm voting for renaming with redirects. ~~ Songlian 10:29, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Gameplay changes
Prostitution / revealing clothing and the Jail
I found a new feature concerning the items. If the Princess wears clothes that can be considered suspicious by the Dhorn patrol (Padded Catsuit in my case), they will stop her, check her belongings and if they find some stolen items, she will be taken to jail for corporal punishment. I don't know whether this is the case with all sets of armor sold in the hideout or no. - Evil A
- Apologies, Evil A, I moved your comment in the Comments section, so that we can keep the lists clean. As for the patrol's behavior, I had that happening to me with a Padded Catsuit bought from Drago Blake. And as long as we count differences in gameplay, it should be noted that if you undress, you gain a +3 bonus to Move Silently (bare feet). ~~ Songlian 21:03, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, and when I changed the clothes to the Pretty Dress, the patrol stopped paying the Princess any attention. So we just need to find out which sets of armor are suspicious for the Dhorn. And I don't know how to check it through the toolset.Evil A 21:20, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
If the Princess walks around naked in Betancuria, she'll be arrested, brought to Prison (new area in Betancuria West) and lashed. ~~ Songlian 19:31, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if it was intended, but I was able to break into the prison with a +6 lock picks... Just some drunk people and a dead body in the cells, and a few empty chests in one of the back rooms. The map is actually called 'Jail', which is a bit generic so I think we should use Betancuria Jail instead. I setup a disambiguation page for Jail, we just need the article. --Superlgn 02:13, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- Yup, I broke in, too. The area itself is named "Prison" on the map, so maybe we should redirect that to "Betancuria Jail" as well. ~~ Songlian 19:38, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- The only thing I see that says Prison is 'PrisonGroundFloor' in the Chooser, which is some map identifier used for internal purposes or something, like what you'd pass to the dm_moveto command. Everything else says Jail for me. Prison redirecting to the Jail disambiguation page would be ok though... --Superlgn 01:05, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
The fine here seems to be all of your gold. I just lost 9,000+ gold pieces testing something out, dm_givegold 33 and a return to the Jail left me with a 33 gold fine, and another visit with no gold made no mention of a fine (just 10 lashes). --Superlgn 01:05, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
The Golden Chalice quest
I just finished the Golden Chalice quest, summoned Hyath, and let him kill both Christano and Myra. I also did the water and gong and no one came out to get me, the side rooms were empty. I don't believe I've ever done this on older versions and no mention of this is made on the quest page. Anyone know if this is new? --Superlgn 02:25, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- As I recall, this is what would happen before the update. 142.162.28.206 17:43, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Changed
Characters
- Tarleth Dallows (different appearance, different portrait, needs new images, enhanced role in Captured quest)
- Pett Webber (different appearance, needs new image)
- Dara Nefzen (different appearance, needs new image)
- Nelina Ashby (different appearance, make a new image)
- Simo Willer (his hair is red now, needs new image)
- Rick Cars (different appearance, gang members also vary in race and gender, they now force themselves on you in addition to stealing your things; received some updates on 19 October 2010, still needs new image)
- Tony Blake
- Gaston Leonseph (comes to Tony's house during Tony the Tiger, with a new assistant named Lyssia)
- Vico (accompaniment on Tony's trip)
- Cata Meynolt (previous relationship with Tony, accompaniment on Tony's trip, different clothing, needs new image)
- Alen Kley (appearance during Tony's trip)
- Arto Benthur (for Captured; description of events surrounding capture are generic enough that it could probably stay as is)
- Terik Lannesen (he can be found dead in the Cells at the end of Chapter 2, needs note in the article)
- Mando Halley (for Captured; his article could/should include mention of assistance with escape)
- Nathan Geigers (some minor adjustments for Captured)
- Simon Lyonson (he's present in the Mayor's Mansion for the dance party, maybe a slight mention in the article)
- Terek Weminster
- Baron Ravenstower
Items
Areas
- The Bear Pit, kitchens (assorted decorations (I think), possibly make a new image)
- The Bear Pit, Nathan's Rooms (previously closed room opened up, notation and new image probably not necessary)
- Dark Alley (needs new screenshot of Rick and his gang)
- Tald's Tavern (new layout)
- The Wildcat (there's huge sign in front of it now with a red heart painted on it, needs new pic)
- Tony's House (layout and decorations appear the same, needs a closer look to verify, could use some better images anyway)
- Mayor's Mansion (see quest notes below)
- Betancuria West (needs new map because Prison was added)
- Betancuria North (there's a hanging platform now in it, needs new map, also new Empty House map next to the Flagon)
- 2, Acorn Street, 1st floor (some decoration changes and a dresser with the clothes made by Gaston during TTT, probably doesn't need to be flagged but it could use a new image)
- Temple of Hyath (overall article listing all maps, updated to include archway on 19 October 2010)
- Temple of Hyath, sanctum (altar has different appearance, probably doesn't need to be flagged, just a new image)
- Temple of Hyath, bridge (extremely minor adjustment for doorway leading new 'archway' map)
- Betancuria Castle (courtyard map updated for Captured, also addition of Guards' Quarters and Storage Rooms below)
- Sewers (one of the lesser Sewers maps has been updated for the Blackmailed quest)
- Dockhouse (in South next to the Empty Dockhouse, an older yet previously undocumented area (on the wiki) that has a bunch of homeless people / paupers in it now)
- Academy, Teachers' Quarters (for Pia is Missing, last two bedrooms different, no portal)
- Ravenstown
- The Ice Princess
- Mountains of Frost
- Ravenstower Castle
- Terek's Tower
Quests
- Part One Walkthrough: Prologue
- Tony the Tiger
- Lesson 2 (fighting a lizard now, you can also strip to distract Taka)
- Mayor's Mansion quest (window in bedroom is gone, another level added, statue location changed, a few interesting sounding books in the bookshelf, the captive in the hidden room)
- Uncover the Dhorn Spies (minor change here - the main gladiator in the bedroom is now an orcish guy, who's also the one of the guys who assaults you in the Swordfish)
- The Golden Chalice quest (new vision in 'hole' map when taking the diary, altar in the sanctum has a different appearance, bridge map is a bit different now as it leads to new 'archway' map, archway goes to tombs)
- Part One Walkthrough: (end of) Proving Your Mettle (significant changes here, could use it's own walkthrough with minimaps and such, Captured seems the logical choice)
- Pia is Missing
Added
Characters
- General Reyer (Prologue; brother of Tald Reyer?)
- Dhorn Commander (Prologue, the one with the winged helmet, needs disambiguation)
- Andrik Snyder (aka the "Bearded Man", Captured, Blackmailed, and Pia is Missing quests)
- Will (Tony's "right-hand man", last name?)
- Lyssia (Gaston's assistant, last name?)
- Adellindra Arnimanner (Tony's maid, "you can just call me Ady")
- Timonald Jarshaley (Tony's butler/cook, also called Timo)
- Betta Notter (Tony's servant/maid?, middle-aged woman)
- Waler Brimson (Tony's guest during Tony the Tiger, also called Master Brimson, assassination resolution cpt 2)
- The Guardian (bone golem looking thing guarding the archway map in the Temple of Hyath, worth adding to the wiki?)
- Sander Gregory (the captive in the hidden room during Mayor's Mansion quest, add as companion? fairly brief, town crier note about his fate)
- There's a (female) Ghost now in The Wildcat on the upper floor, instead of a spirit. (added note to article, don't think label is necessary, 22oct2010) ~~ Songlian 20:55, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
- Captain Taris Ashald (Ravenstower Castle)
- Claile Ravenstower (Ravenstower Castle)
- Lady Dana (Ravenstower Castle)
- Lord Castias (Ravenstower Castle)
- Timin Ravenstower (Ravenstower Castle)
Items
- Dress by Gaston "Black Seduction"
- Dress by Gaston "Golden"
- Dress by Gaston "Heavy on Top"
- Dress by Gaston "I'm tall!"
- Dress by Gaston "Near Dark"
- Dress by Gaston "Summer in Illeria"
As far as naming goes for the above, we could go with Dress (Black Seduction) or maybe just Black Seduction. We've got a bunch of weapons going by their names like Ice, Frost, and the Bleederkin, but "I'm tall!" may be a bit awkward. --Superlgn 18:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Panties & Bra White
- Nightie
- Pants
- Panties White
- Pants & Top
- Bra White
- Fancy Cloak
- Bathrobe
Some of these are a bit generic, we may want to go with Bathrobe (Tony) for some/all (as they're all items from Tony's house). --Superlgn 18:36, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
- Wicked Blade (new gift from Alfons instead of the Poisonous Short Sword (Gift))
- Armor of the Maiden (found in sarcophagus behind 44DC door in 'Passage' on Captured quest)
- Bearded Man's Key (Blackmailed quest)
- Bearded Man's Amulet (found on his body in Pia is Missing)
- Sargozian's head (TTT, from Brimson)
- La Chanteuse (ring on Pia's finger)
Areas
- Outside Betancuria: Smugglers' Cove (landing area for Tony's trip)
- Smugglers' Cove, Tower, Basement
- Smugglers' Cove, Tower, 1st floor
- Smugglers' Cove, Tower, 2nd floor
- Smugglers' Cove, Tower, 3rd floor
- Smugglers' Cove, Cave
- Jail (in Betancuria West, create disambiguation with this and Westwood Castle's Jail)
- Temple of Hyath, archway (a new map between the bridge and the tombs)
- Cells (for Captured, alternate article name like Dhorn Headquarters, Cells would be better, altered and renamed from previous Dhorn HQ map?)
- Storage Rooms (for Captured, alternate name preferred)
- Passage (two new 'Passage' maps running under the castle for Captured; article not necessary, minimaps for walkthrough would be useful though)
- Betancuria Castle, Guards' Quarters (for Captured)
- Empty House (in Betancuria North, near the Flagon, for Blackmailed quest)
- Cellar (in South to the left of the Swordfish, completely different map in v1.40 (that was undocumented on the wiki); has a chest and a thief inside)
- Ravenstower Barony (really the old Ravenstown map but much larger now, could have it's own article separate from Ravenstown)
- Ravenstower Barony, Abandoned Mine
- Ravenstower Barony, Dragon's Lair (definitely not Hovazz' Lair)
- Ravenstower Barony, Mountain Pass
- Ravenstower Barony, Mountains of Frost, Pit (area redirect to Mountains of Frost)
- Ravenstower Barony, Woods (where is this? maybe a small interstitial map between ravenstower barony/ravenstown and the mountain pass)
- Ravenstower Castle, Barons's Tower, Bedroom (the baron had a bedroom before, but it was undocumented, area redirect)
- Ravenstower Castle, Barons's Tower, Dining Room
- Ravenstower Castle, Barracks (not sure if this is usable, area redirect)
- Ravenstower Castle, Dungeons (not sure if this is usable, area redirect)
- Ravenstower Castle, Lower Floor (map for Terek's fight?, area redirect)
- Ravenstower Castle, Upper Floor (not sure, area redirect)
- Ravenstower Castle, Terek's Tower, Bedroom (these three were never documented, and probably don't need to be; noting map names here anyway; made area redirects)
- Ravenstower Castle, Terek's Tower, Laboratory (don't think I saw this map)
- Ravenstower Castle, Terek's Tower, Library (where you crash land?)
- Ravenstower Castle, Mausoleum (similar to the Ravenstown Mausoleum map, but mostly different)
- Ravenstown, Crypt
- Ravenstown, Tailor's House
- Ravenstown, Tailor's House, Upper Floor (making an area redirect)
- Ravenstown, Tunnel (tiny as I recall, probably doesn't need to be documented)
Quests
- Blackmailed (by the mysterious Bearded Man)
Removed
Characters
Items
- Poisonous Short Sword (Gift) (assumed, not flagged as an old item yet)
- Implosion Bottle
Areas
- (Hovazz') Lair
- Icy Caverns
- Ravenstower Woods
- Ravenstower Woods, Cave
- Ravenstown Mausoleum (ravenstowen has the crypt now and the castle has the mausoleum)
Quests
Bugs
- My first time with Jero his dialog stopped after an Arts of Love check. It sounded more like the type of thing you get when you're trying to setup a meeting with Simon. Can restart and complete the interaction normally by clicking on Jero after it breaks. --Superlgn 04:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
- When Tony approaches the Princess outside the Bear Pit, his dialog seems a bit incomplete... I don't recall him asking you to come to his house or giving you directions. He just disappears after and your journal updates with his address. --Superlgn 04:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
- When speaking with Nathan after Tony the Tiger has finished, he still has some dialog from before it really begins (asking for permission) if you never spoke with him before. --Superlgn 04:16, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
- I can't get Gaston to make me the beggar costume after Tony the Tiger. There's only the "I'd like to buy a special outfit" option, and after clicking through all the options available (money, highborn lady and special offer) which he declines, the "I really need that costume" option doesn't appear anymore. ~~ Songlian 19:35, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
- I've seen some breakage in the sex dialog that's shared between the sailors/Swordfish/Ice Princess patrons. Can't remember any specifics, but it's happened to me a few times. Next time I'll try to remember what service they chose and what the last conversation selection was at the very least. --Superlgn 15:22, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
- After Caron dies, the dialogue with Vico has the "Caron is dead" option twice. ~~ Songlian 20:30, October 22, 2010 (UTC)