A Dance with Rogues

Basis for the speculation changes[]

Thirdpres, said back in late April 2011

"Extra info:

Valine has been having a tough time figuring out just what she wants to do with a update for Part 2. She has quite a few ideas, some are mutually exclusive. Some of these ideas would involve a massive reworking of Part 2 as it exists. That is a ton of work.

On a lighter note she has good things to say about vacationing on the Canary Islands."


"Something I noticed just a moment ago. Just trivia, on Valine. On the ADWRs wiki there is a page about Valine with some speculations on it.

One is that Tony the Tiger might be a reference to Frosted Flakes, that she likes them. This is not the case. Valine's referencing 'Scarface' the movie, the main character's name is Tony, the princess is playing the role of Michelle Pfeiffer's character. I told her back when she first showed me the Tony the Tiger character that people would think about Frosted Flakes, she thought that was funny."

~~ Songlian 08:44, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

One of many references to Song of Ice and Fire is the "little birdie" nickname Dog uses when he talks to Sansa. At some point there is even a dialog between him and Sansa about how the world is cruel and the strongest rule - very much in same lines as dialog with Vico on the boat in the beggining of part 2. I think in many sence Vico's character was inspired by Dog... thouhg Valine took it a little bit further, and made Vico do, what Dog decided not to do, on the night of Stenis attack on King's Landing. ChernyjDyr 07:16, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, I totally agree with it, and have heard it from other people, too. If you want to add the Vico/The Hound similarities to the article, I'm all for it. Of if you want me to add them, just let me know. Or maybe we should add them to Vico's page. Anyway. :) ~~ Songlian 19:17, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Is there any way to get in contact with Valine? I would very much like to speak with her if it possible.